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New Consultation to ban all swords

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:57 pm
by Loz
Inevitable I guess, could be in force by the end of the year according to Ancient Warrior brand.

Re: New Consultation to ban all swords

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:26 pm
by Moon
Why am I not surprised to read this? :roll:

Re: New Consultation to ban all swords

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:38 pm
by Big Lazy
I just knew this was coming.

Re: New Consultation to ban all swords

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:31 am
by cybernex
Oh FFS!!!!

Why Don't these home office pen pushers just DROP DEAD!!!! :evil:

Re: New Consultation to ban all swords

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:48 am
by the blade master
i might have bloody known :-x

Re: New Consultation to ban all swords

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:19 pm
by Wanderingblade
OK chaps - Just thought I'd have another chat with the Home Office

Looks like discussions are underway to widen the ban to cover ALL swords by October.

Same exemptions for martial artists / re-enactors etc will apply.

There will be NO consultation - this will be decided 'behind closed doors'

There may be a widening of exemptions to allow trade in cavalry style swords etc which got caught up in the ban, as yet though it is all just a possibility.

Watch this space.......................................

Re: New Consultation to ban all swords

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:31 pm
by simonatack
So presumably, an all-sword ban will wipe out all businesses dealing in them, UK forges making replicas for re-enactors as well as collectors and wholesale importers agencies, along with all staff jobs? I say to all who work in this industry, lobby Brussels for enormous compensation claims for losses under the Human Rights act, against the government. Nothing so puts the fear of God up Parliament's jacksy than losing huge sums of money. And maybe its time to put snobberies and petty differences aside and have all dealers and manufactururs band together and lobby like hell for customer licencing. Thats our only hope now. Individual challenges, however reasonable, are proving far too easy for politicians to ignore. But a concerted effort, en masse, might do some good! You could'nt compare similar action by Countryside Alliance to the Foxhunting ban as so many were against them anyway. I don't think there would be quite a public outcry against this particular interest?!

Re: New Consultation to ban all swords

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:00 pm
by Iron Donkey
This was 100% inevitable. It's sad and tragic that it's taken place considering that European swords are actually a huge part of the UK's cultural heratige and indeed, it pays massive disrespect to our own feudal history. That and the crime rate involving these swords is almost 0.

The loss of jobs is sickening, also this is a barrier to entry for European firms selling swords. The European Union is based on free trade. There's a good chance that the EU would intervene here if a sword supplier took the state to court in Europe, as it's an outright ban on goods that are completely legal, have numerous legitimate reasons for ownership, and are involved in next to no crime. It's like banning antique fire pokers (which have been involved in a similar number of assaults as swords.)

The UK.....sucks!

Re: New Consultation to ban all swords

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:30 pm
by simonatack
If we dont start getting collectively organised and make a unified voice against this, its over for swords, then its over for shooting sports and Fencing, and javellin throwing until we are down to being a disarmed Nation of culturally and historically disenfranchised sheep who couldn't be trusted with so much as a bloody toothpick in the eyes of the world!

Re: New Consultation to ban all swords

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:47 pm
by Big Lazy
simonatack wrote:If we dont start getting collectively organised and make a unified voice against this, its over for swords, then its over for shooting sports and Fencing, and javellin throwing until we are down to being a disarmed Nation of culturally and historically disenfranchised sheep who couldn't be trusted with so much as a bloody toothpick in the eyes of the world!
You're wasting your time dude. I've said it a million times on these boards already and I'll say it again... The government wants them banned so they'll be banned, its not up to the public no matter how much fuss is made. Its time to accept facts and get on with our lives.

Re: New Consultation to ban all swords

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:47 pm
by EmmaD
You're wasting your time dude. I've said it a million times on these boards already and I'll say it again... The government wants them banned so they'll be banned, its not up to the public no matter how much fuss is made. Its time to accept facts and get on with our lives.
He's standing up to be counted and making his opinion known about an injustice. That is never a waste of time.

Re: New Consultation to ban all swords

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:51 pm
by Big Lazy
EmmaD wrote:
You're wasting your time dude. I've said it a million times on these boards already and I'll say it again... The government wants them banned so they'll be banned, its not up to the public no matter how much fuss is made. Its time to accept facts and get on with our lives.
He's standing up to be counted and making his opinion known about an injustice. That is never a waste of time.
Sorry but in this case it really is, and its about a year too late too.

Re: New Consultation to ban all swords

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:54 pm
by Blackbird
Seconded, I wrote a fair few letters and signed I dont know how many petitions about the curvys and it did sweet F A . BUK reenactors anybody :D

Re: New Consultation to ban all swords

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:34 pm
by simonatack
Blackbird wrote:Seconded, I wrote a fair few letters and signed I dont know how many petitions about the curvys and it did sweet F A . BUK reenactors anybody :D
Pretty good idea to me. I'll wear a curly wig and hose, if it means I can keep collecting my beloved rapiers and cavalry sabers. I'm lucky enough to be able to afford antique originals but, what I'm after isn't so easy to get hold of. A good sword, is a good sword, whether it was made 150-400 years ago or last week! And as its likely that forums such as this are visited by the authorities and even MI5 for all we know, I'll just keep on voicing my discontent at the utter horseshit we are expected to swallow, as futile as it may prove, just so they know what I think of their policies and the dictates of that bunch of feckless, gutless cowards and swindlers that currently infest OUR Parliament.

Re: New Consultation to ban all swords

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:04 pm
by cybernex
Strongly Seconded!!!