oh right. lolLexxorcist wrote:The son I'm talking about is 19 now, so he should be ok.
yeah... should be a laugh for him. send him on his way. lol
I think your definition of 'standing' differs to most then. The nearest styles of karate that i know of that undertake groundwork are goju-ryu and wad-ryu. IIRC aren't you a shotokan ecponent (if not, i'm a fool and i apologise). Sweeping aint counted as groundwork. Judo, aikido, BJJ and other 'mat' MA's are.darkphoton1 wrote:first of, karate is absolutly NOT a standing art, peopel who stand in karate get sweeped quickly, as are people who dance around like soemthing out of hollywood.
See, now this is where i have a problem with your statement as this is my area. 12 years of aikido, studying almost exclusively locks, throws, pressure points and the past 2 years of aiki jujitsu. Never would i find any of the wrist locks easy to apply and certainly not in most cases. And pressure points??? for the love of baby jesus, applying them correctly are extremely hard, incorrectly are extremely dangerous. You sure you know what you're saying?i find i am best suited for wrist,finder and elbow locks, so i tend to get them into one of these and pull them down. this exposes thier neck and shoulder area. then i hit some pressure points with a technique we call in shotokan "raindrop" or some people refere to it as "teardrop"
Sure, why not?! I dont doubt they 'can' work. But i'd hate to be the person scraping you off the floor when you try your 'absorb the punch and then wrist lock em' and end up with your own toes wedged up your rectum.but again i will point out that these techniques work well for me, but not everyone else. i think that we should not assume im some nutjob who thinks that im a tank on legs and that i let people hit me when i fight them. my methods may seem strang but lets try to think .... "is there the slightest chance that MAY actually work?"
Not trying to offend mate, just pointing out my cynisism to your posts. Not trying to undermine your values either, they are your own and i respect them.......as mine are mine, i just don't agree with yours. Its a healthy debate and i'm sure we can all learn something from it.let us go further into the matter but let us not offend each other and undermine each others values.
Unless by "standing" you mean "standing still". Even then, you shouldn't be swept that easily as you're taught to defend against sweeps. So, if you don't stand still and you don't dance around, what exactly do you do? Lay on your back or float in the air? Seriously, you don't stand still and you don't dance around. What exactly do you do?darkphoton1 wrote:
first of, karate is absolutly NOT a standing art, peopel who stand in karate get sweeped quickly, as are people who dance around like soemthing out of hollywood.
if anyone past about 12 stone put in a strike... a good strike, and it bounced off his chest... id be MASSIVELY surprised. 12 stone, traveling at 100+ mph, focused onto a 2" square... dont ewanna do the math, but i will say 'ouch'darkhobo wrote:I weight 245 lbs and consider myself to be a very hard hitter when I get a proper hit in. Open handed with room to move my body I could probly get your feet off the ground with a solid hit. If someone could take a open hand hit the chest from me and then put my in a wrist lock I would just bow to them.
I'm not sure I agree there, unless you mean a flying side kick. It's a powerful kick, and it distances you from your opponent in a way. I wouldn't personally go for any high kicks in a real fight, but I wouldn't rule out a side kick altogether.Hatamoto wrote:side kick from me is a beaut, but it's mostly for showing off on a punchbag lol, wouldn't dare use it in a street fight, talk about exposed.
the stomache is only a few inches above the waist, so in various circumstances, you strike could be delivered quickly. so less danger is involved.Lexxorcist wrote:Yes, flying, spinning and high kicks are all things I wouldn't use in real fights (and not just because i'm too old and knackered to perform them well). I'll go out on a limb here (excuse the pun lol) and say I wouldn't rule out a kick to the stomach. There's instances where you may have punched to the face and whether you hit or miss, your opponent raises his hands and is slightly off balance, and a side kick to the stomach can be effective. I'm only saying I wouldn't personally rule it out though if I saw the moment, not that it's genreally advisable.
because your the size of a small buffalo, Jai. stop showing off.Dreadnought wrote:Perhaps I'm getting this wrong but moving towards a blow and then tensing up to absorb it, sounds counter productive and doesn't bring to mind Newtons law, Einsteins theory of relativity maybe (fist traveling at say 50mph + you moving forwards at say 20mph = smack in chops at 70mph, doesn't sound like fun to me lol)
I'm with darkhobo and wtf? you have to be a very special individual to get whacked by a person of a certain stature and "absorb the blow" then calmly lock them up
P.S I'm a student of caveman fu, its mostly shouting "UG" at the top of your lungs and clubbing people until they stop moving, its rarely let me down lol
P.P.S Newtons law would work I suppose, the only downside would be the equal and opposite reaction would be who ever gets whacked flying back and landing on the floor in the starfish position lol