michael_collins_2000_ie wrote:And have you actually owned a hanwei blade? Cut with it? I myself own a Golden Oriole, first generation, ive chipped it once by hitting it against a metal lampshade accidentally, very near the kissaki, totally unnoticable. Other people have chipped their (and i do stress this) 150 pound sterling practical katanas by abuse, but thats life, for the money paid, you cannot beat a hanwei blade. The good thing about the chen blades is that theyreMumtazb wrote:If you want a real authentic sword then Paul Chen ISNT the way to go. Many reports of chipped edges, blades snapping during standard tamehigiri cutting and so on....Look at getting something custom made by a good smith who has a good reputation ...plenty of research needed before you can make an informed choice as to which smith you want a commission from
-Have a good reputation, ive not heard a single person here complain about them.
-Easy to acquire in this country, since BUK dont stock LL or bugei blades, thats nothing to do with BUK and not a sleight against them
Chen blades have a very good reputation on this forum and ive heard at least a hundred and fifty people here give them an excellent review. True theyre made in china, but theyre made the traditional way, if you want to pay money for a smith's blade, go ahead, i wish you the best of luck, just dont knock people who bought paul chen blades for the fact that they cannot simply throw away a few grand to buy a blade.
Just a last wee point Kumdo, whats your budget?
I have owned 3, one was an old Last Legend Spirit of the Shogun sword made by Paul Chen . An excellent blade.
Another was a folded orchid, I also owned a PC wakizashi. Many of my friends own PC stuff, so I'm still around the stuff a lot.
All the Paul Chen stuff I have owned or my friends own is a good few years old. Never had any major problems with chipping, and none of these swords have ever snapped clean in half after tameshigiri.
However, it is my firm belief that the stuff coming out of Hanwei forge lately is, and I'll be blunt, a pile of cak. The huge increase in demand for Paul Chen stuff has caused the quality control to slip , and in some cases it has slipped a great deal.
Recent reports about blades snapping or very deep chips have surfaced on a few other forums. Look around and you'll find many threads.
One well known polisher used to polish Paul Chen stuff. The last Paul Chen blade he polished was a folded blade. He mentioned that it was so brittle the edge just began to crumble away when he put it to the stone.
I'm not knocking anybody who buys PC, been there and done that myself. the PC stuff is usually the most common place to start when people get into swords, and you made a few good points about the advantages of PC blades , availability etc.
Generally, many people start at the Practical kat level and as time goes on they want something better.
I just feel that newcomers to swords are in an unfortunate position these days when buying PC stuff , simply because of the qulaity control issue. Too ,much of a risk in getting a dodgy blade.
Having said that Bugei are usually very fussy about quality and performance , so their PC stuff is usually very good. Bear in mind one guy's Bugei blade chipped when he whacked a plastic chair.
Many people term that abuse, but chipping against plastic? Forgive me for being fussy but I want a blade that can handle at least that kind of "abuse".
Blades snapping during standard cutting? On a bad cut they should bend at worst, not snap clean in half. Quite dangerous.
For anybody buying or thinkin of buying a Paul Chen sword, dont let me put you off and dont feel that I'm knocking you. I've owned PC stuff myself and many of my friends and fellow martial artists still do. Just look around at all your options.
Edited for silly typos