Origin of hanwei swords and japanese makes

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Origin of hanwei swords and japanese makes

Postby Jagchester » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:35 pm

Hi all,

So I know the hanwei swords are made in china but are they made by subcontractors from different sources (cheaper then hanwei marked up)? Also are there any legitimate japanese swordsmiths (affordable hanwei range)?

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Re: Origin of hanwei swords and japanese makes

Postby the blade master » Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:20 am

all hanwie swords are made by paul chen (in china only) he,s the owner/manufacturer no sub contractors are used
also no Japanese sword smiths work for hanwie as I belive that Japanese smiths are not allowed to
work outside japan at all
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Re: Origin of hanwei swords and japanese makes

Postby Jagchester » Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:14 pm

Thanks for the response. Thats very interesting! Loyalty to Japan is amazing

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Re: Origin of hanwei swords and japanese makes

Postby Moon » Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:11 pm

Jagchester wrote:Thanks for the response. Thats very interesting! Loyalty to Japan is amazing

It's not a case of "Loyalty to Japan", to-shi (swordsmiths) have to be licensed and their work certified and registered just like guns, forging blades outside the country would disqualify them from forging shinsakuto (new art swords) in Japan again and any blades they did forge would be worth no more than those from China without the official Japanese documentation.
I've only ever read of two licensed smiths who weren't Japanese, one is a Canadian who still lives and works in Japan, the other was an American who is no longer with us and a tanto of his (made while in Japan) sold a few years back for the price of three or more top end Hanwei katana.

I read this quote by Keith Larman of Summerchild Polishing a long time ago when modern Japanese style swords made outside Japan first became very popular and posted it a few times here...
In the world of swords you often get less than what you paid for, hopefully you get exactly what you paid for, seldom do you get more.

...nothing's changed over the years IMO. :|
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Re: Origin of hanwei swords and japanese makes

Postby Jagchester » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:57 pm

Oh that's a little disheartening quote to read! Ah except if you live in America and happen to stumble across a priceless piece in a yard sale for $50

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Re: Origin of hanwei swords and japanese makes

Postby Moon » Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:51 pm

Jagchester wrote:....... Ah except if you live in America and happen to stumble across a priceless piece in a yard sale for $50

Hence - "seldom do you get more" - I suppose. ;)
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Re: Origin of hanwei swords and japanese makes

Postby the blade master » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:29 pm

unless you happen to turn up the one that's dissaperead during ww2 that's
supposedly worth milions of dollars supposedly taken to America by a us marine
what a supprise that's going to be for someone if it ever turns up again
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Re: Origin of hanwei swords and japanese makes

Postby Moon » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:07 am

the blade master wrote:unless you happen to turn up the one that's dissaperead during ww2 that's
supposedly worth milions of dollars supposedly taken to America by a us marine
what a supprise that's going to be for someone if it ever turns up again

C'mon Mick, we know you've this one stashed. :D
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Re: Origin of hanwei swords and japanese makes

Postby the blade master » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:36 am

too right j but don't worry too much as your the sole beneficiary for my collection
when I peg out :wave:
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Re: Origin of hanwei swords and japanese makes

Postby Big Lazy » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:57 pm

Oi, I expect a chen to be slung this way :GGG
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Re: Origin of hanwei swords and japanese makes

Postby the blade master » Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:54 am

no problem not forgetting moons got first dibs on any chen available i.e the peach monkey :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: Origin of hanwei swords and japanese makes

Postby Big Lazy » Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:59 pm

I forget which ones you have now?
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Re: Origin of hanwei swords and japanese makes

Postby the blade master » Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:30 am

the chens are
the mo mo no saru (peach monkey)
the wind and thunder
the Shinto
the ppk& wak
the tea service katana
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Re: Origin of hanwei swords and japanese makes

Postby Big Lazy » Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:05 am

I'll have the W&T or the Shinto then ta very much. Any update on your departure lol :mrgreen:
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Re: Origin of hanwei swords and japanese makes

Postby the blade master » Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:47 am

well according to the death timer on google its the 17/04/2025 by then I,ll be coming up to 77 can you afford to wait that long
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