Importing a sword from the States

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Importing a sword from the States

Postby vjanda » Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:18 pm

Has anyone tried importing a katana from the States?
I found a mint Cold Steel Imperial katana that I'd like to add to my collection.
The price is a steal even with shipping and taxes taken into account.
The same model is openly sold in the UK but I'm worried how it will fare at HM Customs.
Any advice is appreciated.

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Re: Importing a sword from the States

Postby Big Lazy » Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:41 pm

Best advice is not to risk it. You risk it being confiscated by HM customs and if it does get through they'll charge you a small fortune in import fees. I once got stung for £110.
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Re: Importing a sword from the States

Postby Mellony » Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:43 pm

Semper cogitatio.

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Re: Importing a sword from the States

Postby vjanda » Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:56 pm

Bugger, it was less than a 1/3 of the UK price :(
I import lots of gear from the States, knives, bows and crossbows.
Never had a problem until last time when I had a folded steel tanto held in customs for a months.
When I phoned them they said it's in a long queue waiting to be assessed for legality.
It did pass eventually.

Thanks for the advice anyhow ;)

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Re: Importing a sword from the States

Postby Moon » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:44 pm

vjanda wrote:When I phoned them they said it's in a long queue waiting to be assessed for legality.

That's BS, the only restriction on fixed blades is that they must not be over 50cm from tip to handle if the blade is curved.
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Re: Importing a sword from the States

Postby vjanda » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:51 pm

Then it must have been the ontario rat 2 folders that I had in the same parcel.
That would surprise me as I've imported over 2 dozen rat 1's.
My supplier always tightens the torx screw so they can be gravity opened.

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Re: Importing a sword from the States

Postby vjanda » Mon May 05, 2014 9:28 pm

Big Lazy wrote:Best advice is not to risk it. You risk it being confiscated by HM customs and if it does get through they'll charge you a small fortune in import fees. I once got stung for £110.


I just found a well known manufacturer who states he regularly ships to the UK with all the paperwork necessary to avoid customs issues.
Did you get done for more that 20% vat?
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Re: Importing a sword from the States

Postby Big Lazy » Tue May 06, 2014 1:28 pm

I'm mathlesix (trademark Larnbowski lol)

The sword was $500, I got hit with £110 fee's. I cried :oops:
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Re: Importing a sword from the States

Postby vjanda » Tue May 06, 2014 5:49 pm

That's about right. Vat + handling charge of about £20.
I bet it still worked out cheaper than if you bought in the Uk.

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Re: Importing a sword from the States

Postby Moon » Wed May 07, 2014 12:11 am

vjanda wrote:That's about right. Vat + handling charge of about £20.
I bet it still worked out cheaper than if you bought in the Uk.

General rule of thumb is to add 25% of the total item cost + shipping charge for swords from the USA to cover Duty, VAT and handling charge which will vary depending on which service the seller uses but if UKBF will seize a Spyderco UKPK as a gravity knife, nothing with a blade is safe from seizure and the only thing you'll gain is the experience of not heeding the advice offered by others and losing all the money you've shelled out.
I've imported several katana over the years before the law was amended in '08 but I wouldn't dream of it these days regardless of who told me what, where, when etc. - squandering money is something most of us have done at one time or another and is quite normal but deliberately flushing a few hundred quid of your own cash down the pan requires treatment.
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Re: Importing a sword from the States

Postby Loz » Thu May 15, 2014 8:51 pm

vjanda wrote:
Big Lazy wrote:Best advice is not to risk it. You risk it being confiscated by HM customs and if it does get through they'll charge you a small fortune in import fees. I once got stung for £110.


I just found a well known manufacturer who states he regularly ships to the UK with all the paperwork necessary to avoid customs issues.
Did you get done for more that 20% vat?
Cheers


no such thing as paperwork that avoids customs issues, when someone imports a single edged curved sword, the physical item is what customs will be looking at not a piece of paper that claims what it is, we've dealt with plenty of seizures where the kats were accompanied by DVD's and certificates, where the goods were inspected by someone from the British museum to confirm if they were indeed traditionally hand forged, odds are now it probably won't go that far with all the cuts, but to claim they have paperwork that avoids any issue shows a lack of understanding. You should email me for a quote, I think you'd be surprised.
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Re: Importing a sword from the States

Postby vjanda » Sat May 17, 2014 1:36 pm

Cheers Loz,
I buy from you every month and your prices are unbeatable.
I needed a Ronin Dojo Pro and after being assured by the US distributor that he sends to the UK regularly
and that there won't be any problems with HM customs I ordered one.
Pleased to report it has now been safely received, with a decent saving on UK price too :mrgreen:
I was probably just lucky so I don't recommend doing the same to anyone who can afford to have the item ordered
confiscated.


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