something important to remember, that i dont think anyone has mentioned....
SOME karate is good, some isnt.
SOME ju-jutsu is good... some isnt
it all depends on the instructor.... ive never seen a good karate class, and ive seen a few... but geoff thomson swears by it, and i wont dissagree with him (i simply havent got the guts. lol)
the only way you can ask which martial art is better for street defence is to take arts by their principles.... kenjutsu being useless in this area, as no-one carries swords, etc.
as a rule, ive always found that ju-jutsu covers most area's... problem is... its hard to find a good instructor.
ive not delved into karate sinse i was a kid... and the most exposure ive had is walking past classes on the way to my own.... generally i disslike it, if for 1 simple reason... they dont teach groundwork.
its a common (and correct) belief that about 90% of all fights end up on the floor.... and its not somehting you can control to any great extent.
so if you dont teach/learn groundwork, your passing the fighting range that covers 90% of potential situations. your training in an art that doesnt cover 90% of the overall threat.
ive fought MANY karate, TQD, kickboxing, thai boxing guys... instructors included... and all of them are horribly easy to beat because of that weakness. its only when they cross train that they become troublesome.
also... street defence has little to do with martial arts.... dont get me wrong... the techniques are martial arts techniques, and without the martial arts you would have no self defence arts... but theres a huge difference.
street fighting means biting, scratching, eye gauging, spitting, all strikes, all throws, all locks, all everything.... anything.
also involves proper role playing to help manage adrenalin, and stop log-jam, and a whole host of other problems.... role play means plenty of swearing. it also means pre-emptive striking.
a martial art doesnt involve much of the above, where a defence art does... plus in most dojo, if you were to shout "what the f*ck you lookin at? you f*cking want some?" at the top of your lungs, you'd get expelled. (dont worry, we have a special venue for role play, where no-one can hear us... its not like were in the local sports centre)
i'll be the first to admit its not nice... but its a required evil for defence. most karate calls itself a defensive art... but defence means you've been cought off guard, and your waiting for an attack... in a 'self defence' situation... thats a really stupid place to be.
just some general info from me... might be usefull... might not.
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on Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:20 am, edited 1 time in total.